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It's important for us to keep track of repeat offenders, so please let the list, [[IRC]], or the [[directors]] know if you think it's unlikely to be a one-off.
 
It's important for us to keep track of repeat offenders, so please let the list, [[IRC]], or the [[directors]] know if you think it's unlikely to be a one-off.
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==The Story==
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Every couple of months this erupts again here is the story as [[User:SamLR|I]] see it:
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# Once upon a time ([[News_2010-08-03|well, August 2010]]) the space's community was small (<100 members) and we had this huge space (unit 24) to use.
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# Every so often after epic hacking people would crash out over night at the space to commence the hacking anew with first light (or 11am as the rest of the world calls it)
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# As the space grew things changed, unit 23 was acquired, weird urges were felt and hair started growing where it had never grown before, oh and we got more members (~140, 1st Jan 2011)
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# And then there was the [http://groups.google.com/group/london-hack-space/browse_thread/thread/5d3ec87b9af7efb6 thread] (April 23rd 2011), in a simple time of a mear 260 members it was a simple request to try and go home to sleep rather than use the space
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# Later the [http://groups.google.com/group/london-hack-space/browse_thread/thread/75741c1074e819b5 Rule] was added ("Do not treat the Hackspace like your home, it is a shared space. You should not sleep in the space.") and it was understood that you could sleep if there were exceptional circumstances or you were a visitor from out of town. Again peace was restored and all were happy (Sept 1  2011, 320 members).
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# In the Feburary of 2011 (380 members) the [http://groups.google.com/group/london-hack-space/browse_thread/thread/8716e2804a4ff6a9# first] rumblings were when complaints were received of people sleeping in the dark room
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# After [http://groups.google.com/group/london-hack-space/browse_thread/thread/2f78a63dec6f1e94/591775f9b1999f73 discussion] the Rule was tightened ("Sleeping in the space is forbidden")
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# But the rule was [http://groups.google.com/group/london-hack-space/browse_thread/thread/4430b091db83277a ignored]
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# and so began the time of trolls...

Revision as of 12:26, 28 February 2012

There's broad consensus among members (and non-members alike) that sleeping at the Hackspace is Not Good, which means that you really shouldn't do it. Hackspace is a place for working on projects or being otherwise creative, not somewhere to crash out.. It does not matter how much, how long, or how hard you've work on a project (even if it is for the Space), you are not entitled to sleep in the Space.

In particular, everybody at London Hackspace has the right to ask you to wake up and hack, or go somewhere else to sleep. As a community, we really really don't like people who either argue and are rude when they're woken up, or just go away and go back to sleep when the person who has asked them has left.

Alternatives

If you don't have somewhere good to stay, here are some resources that may be useful:

See also Sleeping for hostel/hotel/B&B options.

Waking sleepers

People who've been asleep for more than 15 minutes are likely to be grumpy when woken. If you want to be nice (you have no obligation to), avoid antagonising them and get them a cup of tea or water. You might also like to ask how they're planning to get home: at least they will have a chance to explain why they've ended up staying so late.

It's important for us to keep track of repeat offenders, so please let the list, IRC, or the directors know if you think it's unlikely to be a one-off.

The Story

Every couple of months this erupts again here is the story as I see it:

  1. Once upon a time (well, August 2010) the space's community was small (<100 members) and we had this huge space (unit 24) to use.
  2. Every so often after epic hacking people would crash out over night at the space to commence the hacking anew with first light (or 11am as the rest of the world calls it)
  3. As the space grew things changed, unit 23 was acquired, weird urges were felt and hair started growing where it had never grown before, oh and we got more members (~140, 1st Jan 2011)
  4. And then there was the thread (April 23rd 2011), in a simple time of a mear 260 members it was a simple request to try and go home to sleep rather than use the space
  5. Later the Rule was added ("Do not treat the Hackspace like your home, it is a shared space. You should not sleep in the space.") and it was understood that you could sleep if there were exceptional circumstances or you were a visitor from out of town. Again peace was restored and all were happy (Sept 1 2011, 320 members).
  6. In the Feburary of 2011 (380 members) the first rumblings were when complaints were received of people sleeping in the dark room
  7. After discussion the Rule was tightened ("Sleeping in the space is forbidden")
  8. But the rule was ignored
  9. and so began the time of trolls...