Mailing List Clichés

Below is a list of topics which come up on the Mailing list with high frequency. BEFORE YOU POST for the first time, you may want to take a glance over this list.

I'm interested in the laser cutter....

The Laser cutter is a very delicate and expensive piece of kit, please read the page on it and sign up to a training session; to sign up for training please subscribe to the mailing list and _wait_ for a signup sheet to be posted.

Please don't ask to be trained sessions are run as frequently as possible and are first come first served.

Please note, we will not:

Run private training. Start a waiting list. Allow more than 5 people at a training session. Post sign up sheets earlier. Allow use of the lasercutter even if you have been trained elsewhere without taking our training. How training is run if for the benefit of the machine and the community, not the individual wanting training, as we have a larger duty of care to the membership.

Is the laser cutter working yet?

Check the Equipment/LaserCutter wiki page, type ?laser in IRC or look at the machine to see if it's marked as Out of Order.

If it is out of order, Solexious is the person who generally maintains the laser cutter but weirdly he has a life and subsequently often does other things than fix the cutter, there are also lead times involved in getting replacement parts (often of several weeks). When the laser cutter is working the list will be told, until that point just be patient.

This list is too noisy!

Sorry, the mailing list is very busy (currently at 1,200+ posts per month.) Obviously this can be a lot to keep up with so remember there are alternatives to the 'fire hose' approach: going to 'edit my membership' in google groups you can change to a digest mode, or use the google groups forum view to see the items as more coherent threads.

Subscribe to the announce list instead.

If you use gmail, you can stop receiving emails for threads that you aren't interested in. More Actions->Mute.

Look at what options your email client has for filtering emails out into multiple inboxes,. It's a really useful feature to organise you incoming email, not just for splitting out the hackspace list.

I want to tell people about an upcoming event/see who's coming

Unless it's tomorrow, it's best to add it to the Other Events page, and then link people to it. If it's a big event some time in the future, you might even want to create a dedicated page for it, like CCC Camp 2011. Again, IRC can be a great way to gauge interest.

Hey, why don't we use a forum?

Forums tend to encourage long and impenetrable threads and "ME TOO"s. A web interface requires deliberate visiting (so forums die out quickly), an email gateway makes things hard to follow (posts can be edited), and a dual interface encourages a disconnect between people using email and visiting on the web. They also require multiple levels of moderation, and an overhead keeping threads and boards organised.

Top posting is the way, why are people so awkward here?

Any modern client will hide the quoted text, whether you top-post, bottom-post or reply in-line, so almost nobody cares. Even fewer people care about debating it on the list, so please don't.

Are people interested in a workshop on X

Yes.

Look at our workshops page if you don't believe us; we have over 600 members who are interested in pretty much everything under the sun. It will be easier to organise if you can mail the list with a few dates when you can do it; what you plan to cover; how long you'd like to do it for and any equipment that people will need (how much it will cost). See also the guide called Planning an event